2 NYPD shootings spur questions about Mayor Mamdani's safety plans

Two fatal police shootings in New York City have reignited concerns about the city's safety plans and Mayor Zohran Mamdani's proposal to create a new Department of Community Safety.

In Brooklyn, police shot and killed a man wielding a broken toilet after he barricaded himself in a room at a hospital. The man showed signs of mental health issues, but authorities say the situation escalated, leading officers to use deadly force. Hours later, police shot and killed another man who pointed a fake gun at them in the West Village.

During an unrelated press event on Friday morning, Mayor Mamdani acknowledged that the actions taken by the officers "were swift" but emphasized the need for thorough investigations into such incidents. When asked about his proposed new department's role in responding to mental health emergencies, Mamdani said it was still a hypothetical concept, but stressed the city's requirement to address over 200,000 annual mental health calls.

City Councilmember Lincoln Restler, who drafted legislation for the Department of Community Safety, acknowledged that the NYPD would still be involved in emergency responses. However, he emphasized the importance of having both police and mental health professionals on the scene to de-escalate situations effectively.

Restler's goal for the new department is to connect people struggling with mental illness to treatments, housing, and support, aiming to prevent such tragedies from occurring in the first place. Critics argue that police-involved deaths are often politically fraught, particularly when a mayor appears to take sides before an investigation has concluded.

The community has responded positively to Mamdani's comments, citing his acknowledgment of the challenges faced by officers in high-pressure situations and his refusal to speculate on the incidents under investigation. However, some advocates for reform point out that future investigations should focus more on preventing such shootings rather than assigning blame.

As the mayor pushes forward with his Department of Community Safety proposal, it remains to be seen whether it will effectively address the city's mental health crisis and reduce police-involved fatalities.
 
๐Ÿค” "The greatest danger facing us today is that we are turning against ourselves." We need more conversations about our mental health and safety, not just quick fixes or new departments without solid plans ๐Ÿ’ก. The mayor's idea of a Department of Community Safety has potential, but it needs to be backed by thorough investigations and a willingness to address the root causes of police-involved fatalities ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ.
 
I'm really worried about these fatal shootings in NYC... ๐Ÿ’” It's like, one minute you're talking to someone, next they're dead ๐Ÿคฏ. We need some real answers here! The proposed Department of Community Safety sounds like a good start, but I want to see some actual progress on addressing mental health calls and reducing police-involved deaths. It's not just about throwing more bodies at the problem, we need to talk about systemic changes that'll make our city safer for everyone ๐Ÿค. Mayor Mamdani's acknowledgment of the challenges faced by officers is a good start, but what really matters is how he follows through on his promises ๐Ÿ’ช.
 
OMG u guys!!! ๐Ÿคฏ I'm literally freaking out about this new dept. of community safety idea by Mayor Mamdani ๐Ÿ’ก! Like, can you even imagine having a team that specializes in de-escalating situations with people struggling w/ mental health issues? ๐Ÿค It's like, totally genius!! ๐Ÿ˜‚ They gotta have both cops and mental health pros on the scene, that's the way to go! ๐Ÿ’ฏ I'm all about making sure ppl get the help they need before things escalate into tragedy ๐Ÿ™. And omg, I love how Lincoln Restler is pushing for this change ๐ŸŽ‰! We need more of that positive energy in the city! ๐Ÿ’– Can't wait to see what happens next ๐Ÿค”
 
๐Ÿค” I'm worried about these two incidents in Brooklyn and West Village... like what happened to those guys is devastating ๐ŸŒช๏ธ. You can't just dismiss that a guy was barricaded in a hospital room with a broken toilet and then you shoot him ๐Ÿ’€? And another thing, pointing a fake gun at the cops isn't a reason for them to pull out their guns either ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ.

I think Mayor Mamdani is trying to do something right by proposing this Department of Community Safety, but we gotta see how it plays out ๐ŸŽฏ. I mean 200,000 annual mental health calls? That's insane ๐Ÿคฏ. We need more than just a new department, we need real change ๐Ÿ’ช.

It's also weird that some people are already criticizing the mayor for not taking sides in these incidents before the investigation is done ๐Ÿ˜’. Can't they just let the cops do their job and have the DA investigate afterwards? It's like we're already assuming everyone involved is guilty ๐Ÿšซ.

I guess what I'm saying is, let's not jump to conclusions or start hating on the mayor just yet ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. We gotta see how this department works out and if it really makes a difference in our city's safety plans ๐Ÿ”.
 
๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ I think we need to look at some stats on this one. According to the FBI, in 2022, there were over 400 mass shootings in the US, resulting in 554 deaths ๐Ÿคฏ. Meanwhile, NY City has seen a significant increase in mental health calls over the past decade โ€“ from 34,000 in 2010 to 200,000+ last year ๐Ÿ“ˆ. We need to be talking about prevention and de-escalation techniques, not just reaction after the fact ๐Ÿ’ก.

Here's some data on police response times: NYC PD responded to an average of 3,400 calls per day in 2022, with a median response time of 5 minutes โฐ. Now, imagine having a mental health professional on hand to help de-escalate situations... ๐Ÿค

The proposed Department of Community Safety aims to connect people with mental illness to treatments and support services. That's a great start! But we need to see actual data on the effectiveness of this approach โ€“ like, how many lives have been saved or prevented? ๐Ÿ’ก We also need to look at the economic burden of mental health issues in NYC โ€“ it's estimated that 1 in 5 adults experience mental illness each year ๐Ÿ“Š.

Let's keep the conversation going and share our thoughts! What do you think about Mayor Mamdani's proposal? Should we be focusing on prevention, treatment, or something else entirely? ๐Ÿ’ฌ
 
๐Ÿค” I think this is a super complex issue... so we gotta consider multiple factors here... the new department idea might be a step in the right direction, but what's gonna make it work? We need more than just a fancy title... we need actual training and resources for officers to handle mental health situations... like, how can they not know that showing signs of mental health issues doesn't always mean someone's a threat? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ And what about those 200k annual mental health calls? We can't just ignore them... we gotta find better ways to connect people with help. I'm not sure if this new department will make things safer, but it's definitely a start... and I hope they're listening to the critics who are saying we should focus more on prevention than blame. We need to get to the root of these problems before we can even think about fixing them. ๐Ÿค“
 
I'm all for a new department focusing on community safety ๐Ÿค” but we gotta think if creating more institutions really solves our problems? We're still gonna have people struggling with mental illness & we need to figure out how to support them better instead of just throwing more bodies at the problem. What if they don't want police involvement in de-escalating situations? It's like, yeah we need emergency services but can't we do that without putting lives on hold?
 
๐Ÿค” The recent fatal police shootings in NYC have brought to light the pressing need for a more holistic approach to community safety ๐Ÿšจ. While Mayor Mamdani's proposal for a Department of Community Safety is a step in the right direction, it's crucial that we consider the complexities involved in addressing mental health crises ๐Ÿ’ก. The fact that there are already over 200,000 annual mental health calls highlights the urgency of this issue ๐Ÿ“Š.

It's heartening to see Councilmember Restler emphasizing the importance of having both police and mental health professionals on the scene to de-escalate situations effectively ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™€๏ธ. However, critics have valid concerns about the need for investigations that focus more on prevention rather than assigning blame ๐Ÿšซ. Ultimately, it's up to us to acknowledge the challenges faced by officers in high-pressure situations while also pushing for meaningful reforms that prioritize community well-being ๐Ÿค.
 
I'm so done with this whole "Department of Community Safety" thing ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ‘Ž. Like, seriously, how is creating a whole new department just gonna magically fix our mental health problems? It's not that simple, you know? And what about the fact that 99% of police shootings are already over pretty quickly once officers realize they're dealing with someone who's lost it ๐Ÿคฏ? Do we really need a whole new layer of bureaucracy to handle these situations?

And don't even get me started on how this is gonna affect the average Joe who's just trying to survive. I mean, what's gonna happen when you're struggling and all you want is some help, but instead you've got some new department with more red tape? Nope, not good ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ.

I'm calling BS on this whole "we need more support" narrative. If we really cared about addressing mental health issues, we'd be investing in actual community programs and resources, not just slapping a fancy name on an existing problem ๐Ÿ’ธ.
 
man I'm all about layout and structure, and this whole thing is just a mess ๐Ÿคฏโ€โ™‚๏ธ think we need to separate the facts from the opinions here. we can't just jump to conclusions or start assigning blame without giving the police and mental health professionals a chance to shine. but at the same time, we gotta acknowledge that these incidents are super tragic ๐Ÿš‘๐Ÿ’”, especially when you consider all those mental health calls the city's dealing with every year (200k+). so yeah, mayor mamdani's got some good points about needing more support and resources for both police and mental health pros. but what I'm really curious to see is how he's gonna make this department of community safety thing a reality, and if it's actually gonna make a difference in the long run ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ“Š
 
๐Ÿค” the thing is, we gotta keep in mind that officers are human too, they make mistakes, but at the end of the day their job is super tough. i mean 200k mental health calls a year? thats crazy ๐Ÿšจ can we imagine how stressful that must be for them. idk if its enough to create a new dept tho, maybe just add more training or support for officers already on the job would do more good ๐Ÿ’ก
 
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