Campaigners urge UK ministers to make music lyrics inadmissible in court

UK Campaigners Push for Change to End Musical Misuse in Court Rulings

A growing movement in the UK is calling on lawmakers to reform current laws that allow police to use song lyrics and music videos as evidence against suspects. The campaign, led by Baroness Shami Chakrabarti and supported by human rights groups, argues that this practice disproportionately targets young black men and unfairly associates their musical tastes with crime.

Currently, law enforcement agencies can use lyrics from defendants' favorite artists or even flag appearances in background music videos to suggest gang affiliation or involvement in criminal activity. This has led to a significant number of appeals where music-related evidence has played a crucial role, often resulting in convictions.

Chakrabarti argues that the current practice is "ridiculous" and fails to recognize that someone's love for Francis Ford Coppola's 'The Godfather' does not necessarily make them a mobster. The proposed amendment would require that lyrics be used as evidence only when they are "literal, rather than figurative or fictional."

Campaigners point out that expert witnesses on music-related cases often have ties to the police force themselves and provide biased opinions, which can lead to stereotyping and unfair outcomes. They advocate for independent experts in these cases and procedural safeguards against such biases.

Recent research reveals over 70 trials between 2020-23 where rap evidence, including lyrics, music videos, and audio recordings, was used by law enforcement to build cases. Successful appeals are rare, with joint enterprise cases like the Manchester 10 being frequently cited as examples of how this type of evidence can influence convictions.

The proposed change in legislation aims to address these issues and prevent the misuse of musical taste as evidence against suspects. It is hoped that the amendment will receive support from key government figures, including Deputy Prime Minister David Lammy.
 
im not sure about this whole thing, its like theyre trying to be super PC but at the same time are still using these lyrics and videos to convict ppl πŸ€”...like what if a kid likes a certain artist because their parents listened to them growing up? Does that really make them guilty of something? its all about context and who gets to decide whats "literal" vs not. 🎡 also, i get that the cops can be biased but doesnt that just show they need more training or what? πŸ’‘ cant we just focus on real evidence instead of getting all emotional about someone's musical tastes? πŸ™„
 
πŸ€” I mean, come on... using song lyrics as evidence? That's just ridiculous! πŸ˜‚ Like, how is someone's love for 'The Godfather' gonna make them a mobster? 🎢 It's not like they're trying to commit a crime in their spare time. And what about all those innocent people who just happen to listen to the same artist as the perpetrator? Are we gonna start judging people based on their musical tastes now? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

And don't even get me started on these so-called "expert witnesses" who are basically just police informants in disguise. How can we trust their opinions when they've got a vested interest in convicting the defendant? πŸ™„ We need more objective experts and some serious procedural safeguards to prevent this kind of biased nonsense.

I'm all for reforming laws that affect our justice system, but this one seems like a no-brainer. If it's not literal, then what's the point of using song lyrics as evidence? It's just a fancy way of saying "we're gonna convict you because you like the same music as the bad guy". 🚫
 
Ugh, I mean, it's about time someone speaks up about this ridiculous practice πŸ™„. Using music to judge people's lives and associate them with crime is just messed up. I'm not surprised that the targets are young black men - we all know how stereotyping works. The fact that law enforcement can use song lyrics as evidence against suspects is already a bit too convenient for me πŸ‘Ž. If someone loves Francis Ford Coppola, does it really mean they're a mobster? Please πŸ™„. And don't even get me started on the biases of expert witnesses in music-related cases - if they've got ties to the police force, their opinions are bound to be skewed. It's like they're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole 🀯.
 
omg u dont believe me when i say that using song lyrics as evidence in court rulings is so unfair lol like if u r a fan of drake or kanye west does it mean ur gonna rob a bank or sell meds on the street?? noob course not!! but still some ppl get convicted cuz of their music taste and its just wrong πŸ’”πŸ˜‘ i think they should at least have to prove that the lyrics actually meant somethin or were literal cuz right now its just so biased πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ
 
I'm low-key sick of seeing people's love for music being used against them πŸ™„. Like, if I'm a fan of Billie Eilish and someone thinks it means I'm into crime, that's just not true πŸ˜‚. The fact that they're using lyrics as evidence to build cases is wild, and it's like, totally unfair πŸ’”. We need to make sure our justice system isn't influenced by people's musical tastes or background 🎡. Independent experts and procedural safeguards are a must πŸ‘Š. It's about time we cracked down on this kind of thing and made sure that anyone who's innocent doesn't get wrongly convicted 🚫.
 
OMG, can you even believe how messed up this whole situation is? 🀯 Police using song lyrics to pin crimes on people is just so wrong! 🚫 Like, what's next? Using your favorite memes as evidence against you? 🀣 It's ridiculous that they're still doing this and it's affecting young black men the most. The proposed change in legislation needs to happen ASAP! πŸ•°οΈ We need to make sure that only literal lyrics are used as evidence and not some flimsy connection to music videos or artists. And let's be real, who gets to decide what's "literally" versus "figuratively"? πŸ€” It's time for a change and I'm all about it! πŸ’ͺ
 
man I just can't believe this stuff 🀯 like police using song lyrics as evidence? that's wild! anyway i think its a major problem cause it's all about stereotype and bias - they're not considering the actual person in front of them πŸ™„. if ur favorite artist is the godfather soundtrack, thats not gonna make u wanna join a gang lol. and have u seen those expert witnesses? they're basically cop friends who are trying to prove a point πŸ’”. we need more independent experts and stricter guidelines on this kinda thing. i'm all for change πŸ”„, especially if it means we can stop using music as evidence in court cases πŸŽΆπŸ‘
 
I'm so done with this πŸ™„! Can you imagine being judged for your love of music just because it's associated with a particular type of crime? Like, I have a poster of Freddie Mercury on my wall and suddenly I'm a gang leader πŸ’”? It's ridiculous and it needs to change. The fact that these lyrics are being used as evidence is like something out of a bad movie πŸŽ₯. And don't even get me started on the expert witnesses, most of them have ties to the police force themselves, so their opinions are totally biased πŸ€₯.

We need to make sure that our justice system is fair and unbiased, not influenced by someone's love of music 🎡. It's time for lawmakers to step up and address this issue. I hope they take David Lammy's words seriously and support the proposed amendment πŸ’ͺ. We can't keep relying on outdated laws that target young black men with their musical tastes. It's time for a change πŸ”₯.
 
🚨 I'm totally on board with this campaign! 🎡 Using song lyrics and music videos as "evidence" to convict people is straight up ridiculous πŸ™„. Like, who thought it was a good idea to use someone's love for The Godfather to prove they're a mobster? πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ It's all about stereotyping and perpetuating negative attitudes towards certain groups of people.

We need more independent experts in these cases, not just cops with biases πŸ˜’. And what's up with the "literally" vs "figuratively" thing? Can't we just focus on getting rid of this whole practice altogether? 🀝 I'd love to see some research on how often successful appeals happen when music-related evidence is used against someone. Maybe that'll give lawmakers some real food for thought πŸ‘€.
 
the whole thing just feels so 90s πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ, like we're still stuck in a bygone era where the "cool factor" and someone's musical tastes can determine their credibility or innocence in court. it's wild that this is even still a thing in 2025, with all the tech advancements and progress we've made. I mean, come on, if you have a favorite song from 20 years ago, it doesn't magically tie you to a crime scene just because of a few lyrics 🎢. and can we talk about how this disproportionately affects young black men? it's basically a textbook example of systemic racism through "evidence" that's completely unreliable and subjective. I hope they get the support they need from Lammy and others, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed for real change instead of just tweaks to an outdated law 🀞
 
I'm all for this change πŸ€”! I mean, can you imagine if they used your favorite video game or book to determine your character? It's just not fair 😩. The fact that music is being used as evidence in court is wild and it's great that these campaigners are speaking out about it.

I think the idea of requiring literal lyrics instead of figurative ones makes total sense πŸ™Œ. And having independent experts who aren't tied to the police force sounds like a no-brainer 🀝. It's all about ensuring that justice is served and not swayed by someone's musical tastes 🎡. I'm rooting for this amendment, fingers crossed it passes πŸ’ͺ
 
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." πŸ•°οΈ

The UK's justice system needs a major reboot. Using song lyrics and music videos as evidence against suspects is like trying to solve a crime by what color shirt someone wears or what flavor ice cream they eat for dessert. It's ridiculous and unfair. The current practice disproportionately targets young black men, which just perpetuates systemic racism. We need to rethink this approach and focus on actual evidence, not just musical tastes.

It's time to give our justice system a refresh and make sure it's fair and unbiased. Independent experts in music-related cases are the way forward, along with procedural safeguards to prevent biases from creeping in. Let's get this change in legislation moving and create a more just society for everyone. 🌟
 
This is a classic case of how music can be manipulated for nefarious purposes in the name of justice 😊. I mean, come on, who among us hasn't loved Francis Ford Coppola's 'The Godfather' at some point? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ It's ridiculous that we're still debating whether someone's love for a particular artist is proof of their involvement in crime.

It's not just about the artists themselves, it's about how this type of evidence can be used to perpetuate systemic inequalities. I mean, young black men are already disproportionately represented in the UK prison population – do we really need to use music as another tool to lock them up? 🚫

And let's talk about bias – what happens when expert witnesses on these cases have ties to the police force themselves? Is that not a conflict of interest? We need more transparency and accountability in our justice system, not less πŸ“Š. It's time for a change, and I'm glad to see some brave voices like Baroness Chakrabarti speaking out against this practice.

It's all about finding common sense solutions to complex problems – if we can't trust someone's love of music to be an accurate indicator of their character, what else can we use? πŸ€” Maybe it's time for us to rethink the way we approach justice in the UK and make sure everyone has a fair shot at a good outcome πŸ‘.
 
πŸ€” think its a no brainer they shouldnt use music vids or lyrics as proof somethin just cuz u like 1 artist dont make u a gangster πŸ˜‚ anyway these campaigners are onto somethin and i hope it gets passed πŸ‘ independent experts would be a big help in gettin unbiased opinions
 
πŸ€” I'm not surprised by this movement in the UK. It's like, come on, our love for music shouldn't be tied to how we're perceived as individuals. The fact that experts on music-related cases are often biased towards the police force is just crazy. πŸ™„ Can't they see that it's all about stereotyping? 🎢 I mean, if someone loves The Godfather, does that really make them a mobster? It's ridiculous.

And let's be real, how many times have we seen rap music being used to discredit people or paint them as gang members without any evidence? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ It's like, our culture is just getting lost in translation. The proposed amendment is a step in the right direction, but it's not going to fix everything on its own. We need to rethink how we approach music and crime altogether.

The fact that there have been over 70 trials where rap evidence was used to build cases is just staggering 🀯. And with successful appeals being rare, it's like, the system is rigged against people who don't fit into this narrow narrative of gang affiliation. πŸ’” We need to do better than that.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out in the government. I hope they take this seriously and make some real changes πŸ”₯
 
πŸ€” I think its wild how our tastes are used against us. Like, what's next? Using our favorite memes to prove a point about our character? πŸ“± I mean, I love The Godfather as much as the next person, but that doesn't make me a goon. It's like, just because someone likes Kendrick Lamar don't mean they're into gang life... πŸ˜’
 
I'm all for it πŸ™ŒπŸ½ - a clear overhaul of how music is used in court cases would definitely help reduce wrongful convictions and racial bias. I mean, come on, using a song's lyrics to prove someone's involvement in a crime just doesn't add up (no pun intended). It's like, if I love The Godfather soundtrack, does that make me a mafia boss? 🀣

The fact that expert witnesses are often connected to the police and can skew the outcome is pretty scary. We need more independent voices and stricter rules in place to ensure fairness. Let's hope this amendment gets some serious traction πŸ’ͺ
 
I'm like totally excited about this 🀩! It's about time someone spoke up against the ridiculous use of music as evidence in court rulings. I mean, just think about it - someone's love for The Godfather soundtrack doesn't make them a mobster πŸ˜‚. It's all about understanding context and not jumping to conclusions. The idea that experts with ties to the police force can provide biased opinions is totally unacceptable 🚫. We need more independent voices in these cases, and procedural safeguards to prevent any kind of unfairness. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this amendment gets passed and we start seeing a shift away from musical misuses 🌟. Let's hope it brings about some real change for the better! πŸ’ͺ
 
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