Some want to ban geoengineering research. This would be a catastrophic mistake for our planet | Craig Segall and Baroness Bryony Worthington

Geoengineering: A Desperate Measure to Save the Planet?

The debate around geoengineering, or technological climate interventions, is heating up. The question remains: should we deliberately explore ways to cool the planet and give the energy transition breathing room? Some politicians are pushing for a ban on research into this area, but two experts argue that this would be a catastrophic mistake.

As the Earth's climate system appears more sensitive to greenhouse gases than once thought, it's clear that our current approach is not enough. The science suggests that we need to reduce emissions much faster and explore other tools beyond mitigation. However, there's a misconception that mitigation alone will solve the problem. The reality is that even if we cut greenhouse gas emissions drastically, natural carbon cycles may no longer be able to absorb them, rendering our efforts useless.

The consequences of inaction are dire. Catastrophic impacts and dangerous feedback loops are becoming more likely by the day. We're already seeing the effects of geoengineering in action - think of the darkening skies due to particulate pollution, the melting ice caps, and the increasingly erratic weather patterns. It's time for a more honest conversation about what lies ahead.

The authors of the article, Craig Segall and Baroness Bryony Worthington, are no strangers to the climate debate. As former public officials and longtime advocates, they know that mitigation is essential, but it must be accelerated. They're calling for a broader plan that includes exploration of potential interventions, such as reflecting sunlight or brightening marine clouds, which could buy time and head off enormous consequences.

However, some argue that even discussing climate interventions creates a "moral hazard". But refusing to consider potentially life-saving options is not moral clarity - it's moral failure. Climate justice means protecting people from suffering, and this requires a plan that integrates mitigation, adaptation, and risk reduction together.

The authors are clear: we need more leaders, more funders, and more governments to engage in this discussion. We can't afford to wait for an escalating crisis to force our hand. It's time to identify which approaches might actually help and prepare before it's too late. Geoengineering may seem like a desperate measure, but it's one that could save the planet if done responsibly.

Ultimately, the decision to explore geoengineering is not about creating a moral hazard; it's about preserving the future of our planet. As the authors put it, "a serious research program is how the world gains real choices." We can't afford to shut down inquiry when we need knowledge most. The alternative - a future where decisions are made in crisis and without preparation - is far worse.
 
I just saw this thread from like 2 days ago πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ and I'm so glad someone brought up geoengineering again! I think it's crazy that some politicians want to ban research on it, that's just going to put us in a deeper hole. We need to be thinking about all our options, not just relying on mitigation alone. And yeah, I get what the "moral hazard" argument is saying, but refusing to consider geoengineering because of it doesn't seem right to me... we can't afford to wait for things to get really bad before we try something new! 🀞
 
I'm literally freaking out over this one 🀯. We're running out of time and some people think geoengineering isn't the answer? Like, I get that it's a high-risk thing to do, but what choice do we have at this point? We can't just keep doing the same old thing and expecting different results... honestly, it feels like we're staring into an abyss over here 🌊. The thought of all these catastrophic impacts and feedback loops happening because we were too afraid to try something new is just too much to handle 😩. I'm all for caution, but not at the expense of our planet's future. We need to be having this conversation now, not later... or never πŸ•°οΈ.
 
πŸŒŽπŸ’‘ I think geoengineering could be like adding a extra layer to our energy puzzle πŸ€”. We're already burning fossil fuels like crazy, and if we cut emissions drastically, it might not make a huge difference πŸ“‰. But if we start experimenting with technologies that can manipulate the climate, like brightening clouds or reflecting sunlight β˜€οΈ, it could buy us some time to find better solutions.

I'm thinking of this as a 2D diagram:
```
+---------------+
| Current Path |
| (burning fossil)|
+---------------+
|
|
v
+---------------+
| Geoengineering |
| (manipulating climate)|
+---------------+
|
|
v
+---------------+
| Alternative Solutions |
| (renewable energy, etc.)|
+---------------+
```
It's not a silver bullet, but it could be a useful addition to our toolkit πŸ› οΈ. We need more research and discussion about the potential benefits and risks of geoengineering, and how we can make sure it's done responsibly πŸ’‘.
 
πŸ™„ I mean, come on, geoengineering? It's about time we started thinking outside the box (or in this case, the emissions reduction plan). I'm not saying it's a magic solution or anything, but seriously, if we can't even consider ways to cool the planet and give ourselves some breathing room, are we just gonna sit around and watch the world burn? πŸ˜‚

And don't even get me started on the "moral hazard" argument. That's just a fancy way of saying "we're scared of the potential consequences, so let's not think about it". Newsflash: climate change is already having real-world consequences, like rising sea levels and more frequent natural disasters. It's time to stop playing politics with science and start taking action.

I agree that we need to accelerate our mitigation efforts, but let's be real, cutting emissions drastically alone is just not gonna cut it (pun intended). We need a multi-faceted approach that includes geoengineering, as well as other solutions like carbon capture and advanced renewable energy technologies. Anything less would be irresponsible.

And can we please, for the love of all things good, stop having this debate in hushed tones? It's time to have a serious conversation about what it's gonna take to save our planet. We need more leaders who are willing to think outside the box and explore new solutions, not just the status quo. πŸ’ͺ
 
I'm so worried about this whole geoengineering thing 🌎😟. I think some politicians are being super short-sighted by trying to ban research into it. Like, what's the worst that could happen? We've been too slow with emissions cuts and now we're running out of options. The science is clear: our planet is super sensitive to greenhouse gases and we need to do something drastic.

I'm not talking about just cutting emissions, I'm talking about exploring actual geoengineering techniques like reflecting sunlight or brightening clouds. These are the kinds of things that could give us a reprieve from the worst effects of climate change. And let's be real, we're already seeing some pretty wild weather patterns and rising sea levels.

The thing is, refusing to even consider these ideas is basically moral failure πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ. Climate justice isn't about playing it safe, it's about protecting people from suffering. We need a plan that includes mitigation, adaptation, and risk reduction - not just a bunch of piecemeal efforts.

I think we're at this point where we can no longer afford to wait for the perfect plan before we start exploring these options. The more time we waste talking about "moral hazards" or waiting for some sort of crisis to force our hand, the closer we are to disaster. We need leaders who are willing to take risks and invest in research that could save us all.

It's funny, I was just thinking about how this is basically like trying to fix a car while driving down a steep hill. You can't afford to hesitate or you'll end up crashing πŸš—πŸ˜¨. Geoengineering might seem like a last resort, but it's actually our best bet if we do nothing else.
 
Geoengineering sounds super dodgy to me πŸ€” I mean, have you seen all those sci-fi movies about messing with the planet's temperature? It just seems like science fiction come true πŸ˜‚ We're not even sure what kind of unintended consequences we'd be unleashing by tampering with the Earth's climate. I'm all for finding solutions to our energy crisis and reducing emissions, but let's not get carried away with crazy measures that could have disastrous effects πŸŒͺ️
 
I'm so done with these climate experts saying geoengineering is the answer πŸ™„. Like, what's next? Paying people to stop smoking or something? It sounds like they're just trying to spin the fact that we can't cut emissions fast enough into a silver lining πŸ’Έ. And another thing, if geoengineering even works, who's gonna regulate it and make sure it doesn't mess up the planet further πŸ€”. We can't just throw more money at the problem without thinking about the unintended consequences. It sounds like they're just trying to save face after realizing that climate mitigation isn't going to cut it soon enough πŸ‘Ž
 
I'm really worried about this geoengineering thingy πŸ€”... I mean, on one hand, it does sound kinda desperate to try and cool the planet, but at the same time, what if it actually works? 🌎 We're already seeing so many crazy weather patterns and stuff, maybe some kind of intervention could be just what we need. But on the other hand, isn't there a risk that it could do more harm than good? πŸ˜• I don't know... can we really afford to try something new when the current plans aren't working out? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ It's all so confusing and scary 😬
 
πŸŒŽπŸ’‘ I'm all for exploring geoengineering as an option, but let's not forget that it's just a band-aid solution πŸ€•. We need to fundamentally change our approach to reduce emissions, not just patch up the problem with some quick fixes. It's like trying to put out a fire with gasoline - temporary relief, but ultimately more damage done πŸ’£. We need leaders and governments to step up their game and invest in clean energy and sustainable practices, not just throw money at geoengineering gimmicks πŸ€‘.
 
can't believe some ppl think geoengineering's off limits πŸ˜’ ... like, what if it's our only shot? pollution levels are through the roof and we're still debating about slowing down emissions... how much more time do we need to wait for catastrophic consequences 🌎πŸ’₯ gotta be real about this one πŸ‘Š
 
geoengineering sounds like a crazy idea but at this point i think its worth exploring...like seriously the science suggests were running out of time and if we dont try anything new then were all fucked 🀯 the thing is mitigation alone wont cut it anymore and even if we slow down emissions natural cycles may not be able to catch up which would just make things worse. darkening skies melting ice caps weird weather patterns are already happening so why not try some geoengineering measures to buy us time...it could be a stretch but what choice do we have?
 
πŸš¨πŸ’¦ I'm low-key freaking out about this geoengineering thing tho... like, I get it, our current approach ain't cutting it & all, but can we pls NOT just dismiss the whole idea of messing with the Earth's climate system? It's not like we're talking about some crazy sci-fi stuff here. We're talking about trying to save our planet from ourselves! πŸŒŽπŸ’” I'm down for any serious discussion that could help us figure out what to do next, but let's not just shut it down because of some moral hazard concerns. That's not how you solve a crisis, fam. πŸ’ͺ
 
omg you guys I'm so done with the slow pace of climate action 🀯 what's the point of cutting emissions if our planet's gonna overheat & turn into a toxic wasteland? 🌑️ we need to think outside the box, literally! geoengineering is not just some crazy sci-fi idea, it's about giving us options to breathe (literally). I know some ppl are worried about moral hazards, but what's more hazardous - waiting for the planet 2 turn into a barren wasteland or taking tiny steps towards saving it? πŸ’š let's not be too proud 2 ask 4 help when we need it most.
 
I'm getting worried about our planet 🌎. I think geoengineering is kinda like trying to fix a broken pipe in school when the whole building is leaking water πŸ’§. We need to find ways to cool down the Earth ASAP, or else it's gonna be super hard to recover from all the damage we've done already ❄️. I'm not saying we should just give up on mitigation, but like the article says, sometimes you gotta try new things when old ones aren't working out πŸ€”. We need more leaders and funders to explore this option seriously πŸ’Έ. I don't think it's about creating a moral hazard, it's about being responsible and trying to save our planet for future generations πŸ‘«.
 
I think geoengineering is one of those things that's going to have to be explored, because lets be real, our current approach isn't working πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. We're already seeing the effects of climate change like crazy, with super intense weather and rising sea levels - it's getting pretty ridiculous out there β›ˆοΈ. The thing is, even if we cut greenhouse gas emissions drastically, natural carbon cycles might not be able to keep up, so we need something else in the mix. I mean, think about it - what if our efforts just cancel each other out? 🀯 It's crazy talk, but you never know.

I don't get why some people are against even discussing geoengineering. Isn't that like being anti-science or something? πŸ˜’ I think it's a way for us to buy time and figure out how to do this whole climate thing right. Plus, if we're not willing to try new things, we'll just be stuck in neutral while the planet continues to get worse 🚫.

I agree with these experts that we need more leaders and funders on board with this idea. We can't just sit around twiddling our thumbs waiting for someone else to do something. It's time to start talking about actual solutions, like reflecting sunlight or brightening marine clouds - those are some crazy ideas, but at least they're worth exploring πŸ”¬.

So yeah, I think geoengineering is a desperate measure, but it might just be our last hope 🌟. We need to stop being so scared of it and start thinking about the bigger picture. Can we please just have a serious conversation about this? 🀝
 
I'm so glad they're finally talking about geoengineering like it's 2025 and not some sci-fi movie πŸ€–πŸŒŽ. I mean, who wouldn't want to explore ways to cool the planet if it means saving our butts? It's not like we haven't been warned about this for years... anyway, I think these two experts are onto something with their "broad plan" thingy. We need more than just mitigation; we need adaptation and risk reduction too. And yeah, let's get some leaders, funders, and governments on board before it's too late πŸ•°οΈ. I'm all for trying new things if it means saving the planet from ourselves. No more excuses, no more waiting around for the perfect plan πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ. We need to start thinking about this now, not later when it's too late 😬.
 
I think geoengineering is like trying to fix a car with a broken engine πŸš—πŸ’”, you gotta try something even if it's not perfect. We can't just sit around waiting for the planet to catch on fire πŸ”₯, we need some backup plans! I mean, climate change is real and it's getting worse by the day ☁️, so let's explore these crazy ideas that might just save us.

It's like when people say "if you're not making money, you're dying" πŸ’Έ, but what about if the planet is "dying"? Shouldn't we try to find a way to keep it alive? 🌎 The idea of geoengineering might seem like science fiction, but if it could buy us some time to figure out how to reduce emissions and adapt to climate change, then I say let's give it a shot! πŸ’ͺ
 
🌎 think we're really running out of time here geoengineering might seem like a last resort but idk why ppl r against it it's not like its gonna solve everythin but it could be a lifesaver if done right and honestly mitigation alone won't cut it anymore our emissions need to drop drastically but natural cycles might not be able to keep up so we gotta think outside the box brightening marine clouds reflectin sunlight its all about givein the planet some breathing room before it's too late
 
omg, this article is giving me major anxiety but also a sense of hope 🌟 i feel like our leaders should be exploring all options to save the planet, not just cutting emissions which is already super hard to do. geoengineering might seem crazy but what's more crazy is thinking we can magically fix everything with just mitigation? 🀯 we need to think outside the box (or in this case, the atmosphere) and come up with real solutions that can buy us time to transition to renewable energy sources πŸ’š
 
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