Former law enforcement trainer sees "unanswered questions" in Alex Pretti's shooting

Investigation into Alex Pretti's Shooting Raises Questions About Customs and Border Protection Officers' Tactical Decision-Making

A former federal law enforcement trainer has expressed concerns about the tactics employed by U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers during the fatal shooting of Minneapolis ICU nurse Alex Pretti. Marc Brown, who spent five years training officers at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers, believes that the officers' actions in the incident raise "a lot of unanswered questions."

The confrontation between Pretti and the border patrol agents began when Pretti appeared to be filming a deportation operation using only his cellphone. Brown questioned why the agents had initially confronted him, given that he was not an immediate threat.

"We live in a digital age," Brown said. "People are going to record law enforcement. So the question is, what was the need to engage him in the first place?" He also criticized the use of Oleoresin Capsicum spray, or OC spray, in a crowded area, calling it both tactically risky and potentially dangerous.

"OC is an aerosol," Brown said. "Everybody around is going to get exposed โ€” demonstrators, bystanders, and other officers. Now everyone has chemical irritant in their eyes." The use of OC spray also raised doubts about whether the legal threshold for deadly force had been met.

The incident has sparked concerns about the training provided to Customs and Border Protection agents, particularly in relation to de-escalation techniques and the use of force. Brown noted that the officers involved in the shooting were trained to say "Police" upon engagement, but the protocols may not have been followed in this case.

Additionally, the report highlights a broader issue with the training provided to Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, who are being asked to perform large-scale sweeps in public spaces without sufficient training. This approach has raised concerns about the risk of harm to both civilians and the agents themselves.

The incident is one of several recent high-profile incidents involving federal agents, which have sparked calls for increased accountability and reform within law enforcement agencies. As investigations continue, it remains to be seen how these incidents will shape the future of policing in the United States.
 
i mean can u imagine filming a deportation op with just ur phone & suddenly getting sprayed w/ OC spray & shot by agents? ๐Ÿคฏ it's like they're more worried about their own safety than the guy they're trying to deport. i've got a cousin who works w/ ICE, & they tell me it's all about 'maintaining order'... sounds like they're making stuff up as they go along ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

and what really gets me is that they didn't even follow protocol. I mean, those agents are supposed to say "police" when engaging someone, but apparently nobody bothered to check ๐Ÿ™„. it's like they just assumed Alex was a threat & went from there. i'm not saying he wasn't doing something wrong, but come on! you gotta be more careful when dealing w/ people's lives ๐Ÿ’”

i've seen some videos of those OC spray incidents, & trust me, it's super sketchy ๐Ÿ˜ท. the way it disperses everywhere... it's like a toxic cloud ๐ŸŒซ๏ธ. i'm all for law enforcement having to deal w/ difficult situations, but this is just common sense stuff. use less of that stuff & try de-escalation techniques 1st ๐Ÿ‘Š
 
this is just so concerning ๐Ÿค•, my kid's friend has a family member who works with CBP and they're saying that the training they get is pretty basic and not really geared towards dealing with situations like this. it's crazy that they'd use OC spray in a crowded area... what if someone had a medical condition or was already feeling overwhelmed? ๐Ÿค and i feel for Alex Pretti's family, losing their loved one like that is just heartbreaking ๐Ÿ˜”. the fact that there are questions about whether the legal threshold for deadly force was met raises so many red flags ๐Ÿšจ
 
Wow ๐Ÿคฏ! This whole thing is so weird. I mean, why did they even engage him in the first place? He was just filming with his phone ๐Ÿ˜‚. And then they use this OC spray in a crowded area? That's crazy! It's like, what if it had spread to everyone around them? ๐Ÿค” The training for these agents is clearly lacking - de-escalation techniques and all that jazz. I feel bad for the nurse who got caught up in this whole mess ๐Ÿ’”
 
๐Ÿค” I think it's pretty worrying that the training provided to Customs and Border Protection officers doesn't seem to prioritize de-escalation techniques. I mean, you're dealing with people who are already stressed or scared, and then you're asking them to use OC spray in a crowded area? That just seems like a recipe for disaster ๐Ÿšจ. And it's not just the tactics themselves, but also the protocols that weren't followed in this case - if the officers were trained to say "Police" upon engagement, why didn't they do that here? It raises some serious questions about how we're handling these kinds of situations and whether our training is doing enough to prepare agents for them ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ.
 
idk about all this ๐Ÿค”... seems like border patrol is having some serious issues with their tactics ๐Ÿšจ. like who expects a random civilian to be filming them? and why did they even confront him in the first place? it's just weird. and OC spray in a crowded area? that's just asking for trouble ๐Ÿ’ฅ. and what's up with the training, anyway? de-escalation techniques should be a priority, not just "police" this and "police" that ๐Ÿ™„. these incidents are raising some serious concerns about accountability and reform, which is needed ASAP ๐Ÿ‘Ž
 
idk about these tactics employed by CBP officers ๐Ÿค”... they need some retraining, thats for sure! I mean, who films a deportation op and expects to get shot at? seems like overkill to me. and that OC spray is super reckless - whats wrong with using pepper spray in a quiet room or something? this just looks like a bunch of officers trying to assert their authority without understanding the situation ๐Ÿšซ. and de-escalation training... yeah, gotta get some of those skills up if they wanna avoid situations like this in the future ๐Ÿ’ก
 
I donโ€™t usually comment but this Alex Pretti incident is really got me thinking ๐Ÿค”... like what's the point of having body cameras if they're not going to actually help prevent situations from getting out of hand? And I'm also pretty confused about why more people aren't speaking up about these incidents, you know? It feels like we should be having a national conversation about how law enforcement is training and interacting with civilians... I donโ€™t have all the answers but it seems like there's definitely room for improvement ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. And let's not forget those OC spray cans are just asking to be used in situations where they shouldn't be, it's like a ticking time bomb waiting to happen ๐Ÿ’ฅ
 
OMG, this whole situation with Alex Pretti's shooting is super suspicious ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿšจ! I mean, who expects to get shot by CBP agents just for filming a deportation op? ๐Ÿ“น It just doesn't add up. And Marc Brown's concerns about the tactical decisions made that day are valid ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. The fact that they used OC spray in a crowded area is just crazy ๐Ÿ˜ฑ. I'm all for keeping people safe, but you gotta do it safely too ๐Ÿ’ช. And what's with the lack of de-escalation training? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ It's like they're just winging it and hoping for the best ๐ŸŒ . We need to make sure our law enforcement officers are properly trained to handle these situations so that no one gets hurt on either side ๐Ÿ’•.
 
i dont think its right that us customs border protection officers get away with using oleoresin capsicum spray in crowded areas ๐Ÿค• its like they expect civilians to just put up with being sprayed with that stuff and not react. and another thing, why are we still using OC spray in a world where you can just record everything on your phone? we need better training for our border patrol agents if they wanna handle situations like this without putting innocent lives at risk ๐Ÿšจ
 
omg u no what's up with customs & border protection?? ๐Ÿคฏ they're like, totally reckless!!! i mean alex pretti was just filming them w/ his phone and they go all guns blazing? what r they even thinking?! ๐Ÿ˜‚ it's not like he was a threat or anything. and don't even get me started on the oleoresin capsicum spray thingy... that's just plain crazy! ๐Ÿคช who uses that in a crowded area? it's like, super risky and stuff. i'm all for keeping ppl safe but u gotta do it in a way that doesn't harm innocent bystanders, u feel? ๐Ÿ‘€
 
๐Ÿค” I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole thing. So the guy was just filming a deportation operation with his phone and the agents are like "oh no, we need to engage him"? ๐Ÿ™„ What's the protocol here? I mean, they're all trained to say "Police" when engaging someone, so why did that not happen? And now there's this whole thing about OC spray being used in a crowded area... it just seems so reckless. Like, what's the plan if everyone around them gets exposed to that stuff? ๐Ÿค• I need some credible sources on this one, like a study or something to back up all these claims. Can't just take someone's word for it.
 
๐Ÿค” just dont get why they didnt just calm him down first instead of making a big deal outta it ๐Ÿ™„ i mean whats the point of recording something if ur not gonna cause trouble anyway lol and OC spray in a crowded area?? that sounds like a recipe for disaster ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ what if someone got hurt by accident? poor Alex Pretti shouldve been treated more with respect ๐Ÿค•
 
๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ Can you believe the border patrol agents were like "oh no, we're being recorded" ๐Ÿ“น and that's why they started shooting? I mean, it's not like Alex Pretti was threatening to use his phone against them or something ๐Ÿ˜‚. It's a digital age, folks! We all know we can record law enforcement, so why the sudden need for aggression? ๐Ÿค”

And what's with the Oleoresin Capsicum spray in a crowded area? ๐Ÿšซ That stuff is like kryptonite for your eyes! I mean, even if you're not directly hit by it, you're still gonna be dealing with the aftermath. It's just too much risk for a "tactical" move ๐Ÿ˜….

We need to rethink our law enforcement tactics and make sure we're using force proportionally (pun intended). I mean, who needs a fancy training program when we've got YouTube tutorials on de-escalation techniques? ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ Just kidding... sort of.
 
I'm so worried about this ๐Ÿค•. I mean, a nurse just trying to film a deportation operation? That's not even a threat to anyone! ๐Ÿ™„ It's crazy that he was confronted and sprayed with OC spray in front of other people. I can see why the former trainer is saying it's tactically risky and potentially deadly. And what's up with the protocol for when agents engage with civilians? It doesn't seem like they're being trained to de-escalate situations properly. We need to make sure our law enforcement officers are equipped to handle these kinds of situations without putting innocent lives at risk ๐Ÿ˜•.
 
I'm thinking, what's up with all this? It seems like our customs and border protection officers are just winging it ๐Ÿค”. I mean, come on, they can't even figure out why a nurse was filming them doing their thing. And then they use OC spray in a crowded area? That's just reckless ๐Ÿ’ฅ. We need better training for these guys, pronto! They're supposed to be protecting us, not putting innocent people at risk.

And let's talk about the protocol for when you engage with someone like Alex Pretti. If the officers were trained to say "Police" and then just shoot? That doesn't sound right ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. It's all about accountability, folks! We need to make sure our law enforcement agencies are held to a higher standard.

I'm not saying we should be soft on law enforcement, but we gotta get it together as a society. Can't have people getting hurt because of some botched training or poor decision-making ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. It's time for some real reforms and oversight. We need to make sure our Customs and Border Protection officers are using the right tactics to keep us safe, not putting us in harm's way ๐Ÿ’ช.
 
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