No cups, no Europe, 40 matches: is this Manchester United's post-Ferguson nadir?

Manchester United are reeling from their dismal start to the season, with the club having lost both domestic cups and currently sitting outside of Europe for the first time in over a decade. The fact that they face Manchester City at Old Trafford this weekend, who have enjoyed the company of Pep Guardiola for over a decade, adds insult to injury.

The narrative surrounding United's current state has been one of stagnation since Sir Alex Ferguson left in 2013. Despite numerous managerial changes, including Ralf Rangnick's 'open heart surgery' comments four years ago, the team remains stuck in neutral, with the club lacking any real sense of direction or ambition. The fact that Michael Carrick has been appointed until the end of the season raises further questions about the club's long-term vision.

For many fans, including Rick Redman, who is quoted as saying "We've hit more rock bottoms and broken more unwanted records in the past few years than I'd care to remember", but not necessarily believe that this is the lowest point since Ferguson retired. However, others, like James Starr, are less optimistic, stating that "It's difficult to have faith in the hierarchy when you look at the key decisions they've made so far".

United's recent history of managerial changes has been marked by a lack of success, with none surviving three years in the role. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer was the longest-serving manager, but he failed to deliver any silverware and lost five of his final seven league games. Ralf Rangnick's tenure was also notable for its struggles, while Ryan Giggs, Ole Gunnar Solskaer, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Darren Fletcher have all had their stints with the club, but none were able to replicate Ferguson's success.

The fact that Sir Alex Ferguson's shadow still looms over the club is evident in the naming of the stand in his honor, which serves as a constant reminder of what United once achieved under his leadership. The appointment of Michael Carrick also raises questions about whether the club is trying to go back to the past, rather than forging a new path forward.

Despite the bleak outlook, there is hope on the horizon, with some fans believing that the latest summer recruits could be the start of something special. However, as Rick Redman notes, "Plenty of money has been spent on coaches and players in an attempt to end the malaise", but so far, it has only yielded a few positive results.

The upcoming match against Manchester City will be a crucial test for Michael Carrick and his team, with many fans fearing that the outcome could be a thrashing. As James Starr puts it, "I can't see the derby being anything other than a thrashing". The question on everyone's lips is whether United can find a way to break their cycle of mediocrity and start competing again.
 
man u r going through a tough time ๐Ÿ˜” this lack of direction & ambition under Carrick is really worrying, feels like they're just trying to fill the void left by ferguson's greatness ๐Ÿคฏ and all these changes haven't helped, it's like they've been stuck in neutral since 2013 ๐Ÿ”€ what's worrying is that they're still not getting any younger & their recent signings aren't bringing the desired results ๐Ÿ’ธ hoping for a derby win against city might give them some much-needed momentum โšฝ๏ธ but hard to shake off the feeling that u r still a long way from being back on top ๐Ÿคž
 
i feel for man u fans right now ๐Ÿค• they've been through so much since sir alex left in 2013 and it's like they're stuck in neutral ๐Ÿš— it's not just about the manager, it's about finding a sense of direction and ambition within the club. michael carrick might be trying to bring some stability but it's hard to shake off the feeling that man u is trying to go back to the past instead of moving forward ๐Ÿ”™

i mean, what's with all these managerial changes? none of them seem to have lasted three years ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ and ole gunnar solskjaer was basically a one-trick pony โšฝ๏ธ ralf rangnick's 'open heart surgery' comments were pretty harsh ๐Ÿ˜ณ but at least he tried something different. the problem is, man u needs someone with a clear plan and a winning mentality ๐Ÿ’ช

anyway, fans are right to be skeptical ๐Ÿค” but i still think there's hope ๐Ÿ”ฅ those new recruits might just be the spark that sets things off ๐Ÿ”ฅ we'll have to wait and see what happens against man city on saturday โšฝ๏ธ
 
๐Ÿค•๐Ÿƒโ€โ™‚๏ธ Manchester United is having a tough time ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ’” They've lost both cups and are worried about Europe ๐Ÿ˜ฌ Their next match against City at Old Trafford will be super hard ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ˜… I feel bad for the fans who've been waiting so long for something good to happen ๐Ÿ‘€ But it's not all doom and gloom ๐ŸŒž New recruits might bring some fresh hope ๐Ÿค๐Ÿ’ซ Maybe Carrick can get them back on track ๐Ÿ”œโšฝ๏ธ
 
Mane United is in a dark place right now ๐Ÿ˜”... it feels like they've been stuck in neutral since Sir Alex Ferguson left, with no real direction or ambition ๐Ÿ”„. The fact that Michael Carrick's appointment is basically a Band-Aid solution to the bigger problem of what's going on at the club doesn't fill me with confidence ๐Ÿ’‰. They've had so many managers come and go, none of them able to replicate Ferguson's success ๐Ÿ”ฎ.

It's like they're trying to relive the past instead of forging a new path forward ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ. And with Manchester City coming up, it's going to be a tough match ๐Ÿคฏ... I'm worried that United might get thrashed ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. But hey, maybe some new recruits will spark something special ๐Ÿ”ฅ? Only time will tell ๐Ÿ‘€.
 
๐Ÿ˜” i think uniteds biggest problem is theyre trying too hard to live up to sir alexs legacy ๐Ÿ™ rather than finding their own identity as a team. michael carricks appointment feels like a stopgap measure to calm fans down, but what about long-term planning? and honestly, ยฃ200m+ spent on summer recruits might not be enough to turn things around... โšฝ๏ธ
 
man united is really struggling rn ๐Ÿค• they need some big changes in the management team or something i dont think michael carrick is the right guy for the job he just seems like another managerial stopgap trying to hold things together until someone better comes along meanwhile man city are flying high over at old trafford this weekend and we all know what that means ๐Ÿ’” its like theyre playing catch up but i still got faith in them i think theyve got the talent and the squad depth but they just need a cohesive strategy
 
ugh, u guyz gotta feel for man utd rn ๐Ÿค• they're literally drowning in mediocrity ๐Ÿ’” it's like they forgot how 2 b a top team ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ since Ferguson left, they've been stuck in neutral mode and no1 can seem 2 make it work ๐Ÿšซ Carrick's appointment might b a good start but we'll c ๐Ÿ˜ it's sad 2 see the club's long-term vision 2 be so shaky ๐ŸŒช๏ธ and yeah, city is gonna thrash them at old trafford ๐Ÿฐ this weekend... ๐Ÿคฏ
 
omg man u gotta feel 4 munich united rn dey r in such bad spot lol but i think its time 4 dem 2 make some changes like appointin a new gaffer or somethin who's gonna shake things up cant have just 1 person makin all decisions 4 the team needs a fresh face & perspective ๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ† & yaaas lets be real pep guardiola's influence on city is a big deal but its also a wake-up call 4 united dey need 2 step up their game 4 real ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿ’ช
 
man i was just watching a vid of a guy playing the piano on youtube and it was so beautiful ๐ŸŽน his fingers were moving like lightning and he was creating this whole world with sound. anyway, back to manchester united... i think they need to stop trying to be their old self and just find a new identity as a team. all these managerial changes are just making it harder for them to get anything right ๐Ÿคฏ maybe they should look at other teams in the league and see what works for them instead of always going back to what worked 10 years ago
 
๐Ÿค” The fact that Manchester United is struggling is not surprising at all. I mean, have you seen the lineup they've got now? ๐Ÿ™ˆ It's like they're playing with kids' toys compared to the teams in the Champions League. But what's really concerning is that it feels like they're trying to go back to the old ways under Michael Carrick. Like, let's just acknowledge that Sir Alex Ferguson was a genius and move on, you know? ๐Ÿ™

I love how some fans are still holding out hope that the new recruits will be the magic solution. It's like, I get it, guys, we've all been through tough times before, but come on! The last time they made a big splash in the transfer market and it didn't work out was... well, let's just say it was a while ago ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ.

It's gonna be super interesting to see how this season plays out. Will they finally find their footing? Probably not ๐Ÿ˜…. But hey, at least we've got some great trash talk going on between United fans and City supporters. That's always entertaining! ๐Ÿ’ฅ
 
๐Ÿค” the thing about man utd is that they're still clingin' to sir alex's legacy like it's the only way to unlock success ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ it's like they're stuck in a loop of nostalgia instead of tryin' new things and buildin' a fresh identity for themselves. michael carrick as interim boss just feels like another iteration of the same old story, and i'm not sure even he can break this curse ๐Ÿ’”
 
omg u no how hard it is 4 us united fans rn ๐Ÿ˜ฉ we've been thru so much since ferguson left & i'm not sure if carrick is the answer ๐Ÿค” i mean, we need some new blood & direction, not just a bunch of old faces trying 2 revive the past ๐Ÿ‘ด๐Ÿป๐Ÿ’ก but at least we got some hope from the new signings ๐Ÿ’ช & i think it's time 4 us 2 stop talking about what went wrong & start thinking about how 2 move forward ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿ‘Š
 
man i feel for united fans right now ๐Ÿ˜” they've been through some tough times since ferguson retired, but you know what? i still think there's a glimmer of hope ๐ŸŒŸ carrick's appointment might just be the spark they need to kickstart something new and exciting! and let's not forget that summer recruits - could we see them make a real difference this season? ๐Ÿค” also, yeah rick redman's right that plenty of money's been spent on coaches & players but it's still early days. i'm not saying united will win everything or even top the league this season, but they do have to try and break their cycle of mediocrity somehow ๐Ÿ”„
 
omg i feel like united has been stuck in neutral since ferguson left ๐Ÿคฏ, it's like they're trying to go back to the past instead of forging a new path forward ๐Ÿ“ˆ they need some fresh blood and new ideas or else they'll be stuck in mediocrity forever ๐Ÿ˜ฉ michael carrick is just patching up the holes but not fixing the bigger problem ๐Ÿ’” what if ralf rangnick's 'open heart surgery' comments were meant to be taken literally?! would that mean he needs a second surgery? ๐Ÿคฃ
 
๐Ÿค” I'm getting major flashbacks to when Fergie was at the helm and we were dominating Europe, winning trophy after trophy... this current state feels like we're stuck in some kind of dark age ๐Ÿ™ˆ. The constant managerial changes have been a bit like a game of musical chairs, with no one able to fill Ferguson's shoes for long enough to make a real impact. And now, we're facing City, who are basically the anti-Man United - slick, efficient, and consistently performing at a high level... it's hard not to feel like we're in for a thrashing ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. I'm not giving up hope just yet, though... remember that 1999 treble season? ๐Ÿ˜Ž Maybe this summer's recruitment could be the key to unlocking our potential again ๐Ÿ’ช
 
๐Ÿค” This Manchester United team is a shadow of its former self ๐Ÿ˜ฉ. I mean, back in my day, we had some top managers like Fergie ๐Ÿ™Œ who knew how to get the best out of his players. But now, it's all about changing managers and spending gazillions on new recruits ๐Ÿ’ธ. It's like they're trying to buy their way back to the top instead of building a team from within ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ.

I remember when Ole Solskjaer was in charge and he had some decent spells, but ultimately failed to deliver any silverware โšฝ๏ธ. And now Rangnick's 'open heart surgery' comments ๐Ÿ˜‚ were just plain weird. I mean, what even does that mean? ๐Ÿค”

The thing is, United's lack of direction is the problem. They're not even trying to play attractive football anymore ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. It's all about parking the bus and hoping for the best ๐Ÿšซ. But fans like Rick Redman are right to question the club's long-term vision ๐Ÿ”ฎ.

Still, I do think there's hope on the horizon ๐ŸŒž. Maybe these new recruits will bring some fresh blood and a new era of success ๐Ÿ˜Š. Fingers crossed! ๐Ÿคž
 
๐Ÿค” So, I was thinkin', what went wrong at Man U? Like, they've had some top managers come in but none of 'em seem to know how to get the team back on track ๐Ÿ“‰. It's like they're stuck in neutral and can't shift gears. The fact that they're relyin' on the past with Michael Carrick comin' in as caretaker manager is a bit worrying, innit? Are they just tryin' to cling to the glory days under Fergie or do they need to start lookin' towards the future? ๐ŸŒž

I think it's fair to say that the fans are gettin' a bit frustrated, mate. I mean, Rick Redman says they've hit rock bottom and broken all sorts of records for the wrong reasons ๐Ÿ˜ฉ. But James Starr thinks it's a bit more serious than that, he's worried about the club's hierarchy makin' the right decisions. ๐Ÿค

I'm not sure what the answer is, but I think it'll take more than just some new recruits and coaches to get Man U back on track ๐Ÿ’ช. It might need a bit of a shake-up at the top, or maybe even a change in ownership? ๐Ÿค” We'll just have to wait and see how this one plays out! โšฝ๏ธ
 
man united r losin big time lol like what happened 2 them? cant believe pep guardiola got all da skillz & dey cant even beat him ๐Ÿ˜‚ its like dey got stuck in neutral since 2013 no wonder dey havnt won anythin important ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ michael carrick tryna fill sir alex ferguson shoes but its hard 2 say dey gonna get it right ๐Ÿ‘Ž dont get me wrong, some new recruits might bring somethin special, but lets be real, dey been tryna fix dese problems 4 years now & still nothin ๐Ÿคฏ derby vs man city is gonna b a thrashing lol cant see united winnin dis one ๐Ÿ’”
 
๐Ÿค” I'm not buying all this talk about new recruits making a difference ๐Ÿค‘. They're just gonna fill the coffers of some greedy owners, while the team continues to stagnate on the pitch. What's really going on behind the scenes that we don't know? Maybe it's not as bad as everyone thinks... or maybe they just don't want us to think that ๐Ÿ˜. Carrick might be a nice guy, but can he fix the whole mess that is United right now? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
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