Why a Chinese 'mega embassy' is not such a worry for British spies

China's proposed mega embassy near the Tower of London is sparking concerns among politicians, but British spies are taking a different view.

According to officials, modern technology has made embassies less relevant in terms of espionage. Instead of operating from diplomatic outposts, China's intelligence agents will be working from the new complex as "radars", highlighting contacts of potential interest and getting to know people. However, this is not considered serious business by spies, who argue that any embassy is a magnet for attention and surveillance.

The main concern seems to be psychological warfare, with officials saying that having one site makes it easier for MI5 to monitor Chinese officials. British diplomats already operate under the assumption that their lives are being watched 24/7 in Beijing or Moscow, where they have worked.

Former defence attache John Foreman described how Russian agents would track his movements and put pressure on him to lose judgment. He said that "some people got so intimidated they wouldn't leave the embassy".

Critics of the mega embassy argue that its size poses a greater threat, but former senior Whitehall officials say that's not the case. They point out that China's espionage threats come from within the country itself, where hacking operations and recruitment efforts are being carried out.

Recent incidents in the UK demonstrate this, with attempts to interfere in parliamentary proceedings occurring outside of the embassy. A former senior official said, "The embassy is only a small part of the total espionage threat from China; we need to be more alert to where the real dangers are coming from".
 
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I'm kinda curious about this mega embassy thing... like, if spies think it's not a big deal for them, that's weird. I mean, isn't having one site easier for them to keep tabs on people? πŸ€”

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And what's up with the psychological warfare thing? It sounds like they're worried about Chinese agents putting pressure on British diplomats. That does sound intimidating... but isn't that kinda what spy games are all about? 😏

[diagram of hacking operations inside China] 🌐

I think it's interesting that critics say the embassy is too big a threat, but former officials say it's not the main issue. I mean, if Chinese agents are already hacking and recruiting people in the UK, why worry about the embassy? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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Maybe it's just me, but I think this whole thing is kinda like trying to find a needle in a haystack... or in this case, a mole in an embassy. It's all about perspective and where you look for the real threats! πŸ‘€
 
lol just saw those stats on global espionage efforts and china's getting hella creepy 75% of cyber attacks on us come from china 🀯 2022 had like 3 major incidents in uk parliament alone btw 🚫 and then you got this new embassy thing... sounds like they're trying to be all sneaky but also kinda obvious? china's espionage threats are legit tho, like 70% of chinese hackers have already been caught πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™‚οΈ what worries me is how much we actually know about their internal operations πŸ’‘ btw did you see that graph on global economic influence? china's growing at a rate of 6.3% yoy while the west is stuck @ 1.8% πŸ“ˆ
 
I'm intrigued by the proposed mega embassy and how British spies perceive its impact on their operations πŸ€”. From what I've read, modern technology has indeed made embassies less relevant for espionage, but I'm not convinced that's a net positive for national security 🚫. The idea of Chinese intelligence agents working as "radars" from the embassy sounds like a clever move, but it also raises concerns about psychological warfare and surveillance state tactics πŸ”.

It seems to me that China is playing a long game here, leveraging its economic and technological prowess to gather intel without directly engaging in traditional espionage 🀝. While British diplomats may feel like they're under constant scrutiny already, the mega embassy's presence could indeed amplify these tensions πŸ’ͺ. I think it's essential for policymakers to consider the bigger picture – China's domestic espionage efforts are a far more pressing concern πŸ‘€.
 
πŸ€” espionnage is still super relevant πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™‚οΈ espies don't think an embassy is safe, gotta stay one step ahead πŸ’‘ or they'll get caught in a web of deceit πŸ•ΈοΈ British diplomats already know they're being watched πŸ‘€ 24/7 πŸ•°οΈ in Beijing or Moscow πŸ“ psychological warfare 😬 can be super damaging too πŸ’” China's espionage threats are mostly from within πŸ”΄ the country itself is where the real danger lies 🚨, let's not focus on just the embassy πŸ›οΈ
 
omg have u guys seen dis?? china's building this ginormous embassy right next to the tower of london and ppl r worried it'll be used for some kinda mind control lol i get why british spies are like "meh" though - all that tech is just gonna make them sit in a room and watch contacts, where's the fun in that? 🀣 but seriously though, if china's already causing problems in parliament without even needing an embassy... that's what's really scary 😬
 
πŸ€” This new mega embassy is basically a giant megaphone for China's intelligence agents, don't you think? I mean, they're trying to downplay its importance as a spy hub, but it's still gonna raise some red flags. And let's be real, who needs that kind of attention when you've got actual hacking operations and recruitment efforts going on inside their own country? πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ It just feels like China's playing a game of cat-and-mouse with the UK, trying to outsmart us at every turn. But are we buying it? Shouldn't we be focusing on where the real threats are coming from, rather than just worrying about the embassy itself? 🀝
 
I think it's a bit weird that they're building this mega embassy in the first place πŸ€”... I mean, I get what they're saying about modern tech making traditional spy ops less effective, but is this really the best use of resources? It seems like just more opportunities for China to stir up trouble. And have you seen the size of this thing? It's massive! Like, a giant magnet for attention and surveillance... perfect for a bunch of spies to hang out πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™‚οΈ.

I've read that some Brits think it's psychological warfare, trying to intimidate people into not doing their job. That sounds pretty dodgy if you ask me 😬. But I'm more concerned about the fact that China is already operating inside the UK, hacking and recruiting here... that's a real problem. We need to be more focused on what's really going on instead of just worrying about some fancy embassy πŸ’».

It's like, we're all so caught up in this espionage game, but have we forgotten that there are people living their lives here? Some of these incidents with parliamentary proceedings being disrupted... it's like, what's the point of even having an embassy if you can't trust your own government officials to keep their wits about them 🀯.
 
lol china building mega embassy near tower of london and british spies are like "meh" πŸ˜’ they think it's just gonna make them targets 🀯 like what's new? espionnage is all about being lowkey, not broadcasting your presence to everyone πŸ“’ chinese intel agents working from a complex as "radars" sounds like some serious Bond villain stuff πŸ’₯ but let's be real, british spies are all about the 24/7 surveillance life πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™‚οΈ they know their lives are being watched and that's just how it is in the game of espionage 🀝
 
this is what i love about china's foreign policy – how they manage to turn spy games into a game of 'who can watch who more closely' 🀣. seriously though, i'm not surprised british spies aren't too fussed about having one embassy – if anything it just makes them more alert to the fact that they're already being watched 24/7 in china and russia anyway πŸ‘€. but hey, if china wants to play a game of 'spot the spy', be my guest πŸŽ‰. i'm more concerned about those hacking operations happening right under our noses – who needs a mega embassy when you have a team of cyber ninjas working for you? πŸ’»
 
I mean, think about it, if China's building some kinda super-embassy near the Tower of London, does that really sound like a good idea to you? It's just asking for trouble. I'm not saying we should be paranoid or anything, but have you seen all these cyber attacks on our systems lately? And now they're saying their spies are gonna work from this new complex as "radars"? Sounds like some kinda surveillance state to me πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™‚οΈ.

And don't even get me started on the psychological warfare angle. If MI5 is already under pressure from Chinese officials, just imagine what it'll be like when they've got a huge embassy to monitor. It's not about whether or not we should trust our diplomats, it's about national security and keeping our citizens safe. We need to be vigilant, that's for sure πŸ”’.

I'm not saying we should go out and build some kind of anti-embassy, but I do think we need to take this seriously. And what really gets my goat is when people say the size of the embassy doesn't matter. Come on, don't they see the bigger picture? China's espionage threats are coming from within their own borders, not just from this one building 🀯. We need to be more focused on where the real danger is coming from, you know what I mean?
 
ugh, can you believe how much stress these diplomats must go through πŸ€•? working 24/7 with knowing their every move being watched πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™€οΈ is already a nightmare. and now china's proposing this mega embassy thing and it's like, hello, more pressure on them 🀯. i mean, former defence attache john foreman said how russian agents would track his movements and put pressure on him to lose judgment... that's some serious stuff 😩. and the critics saying its size poses a greater threat... yeah no kidding πŸ™„... it's like, they already know their lives are being watched in beijing or moscow 🀯. can't we just focus on finding those real threats coming from within china instead of stressing out our diplomats πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ? 🌟
 
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